Infidel 1:35 Sun Nov 29
Fingers crossed this absurd "Climate Summit" ends in failure
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The bizarre collection of activists, lobbyists, socialists, corporate parasites, greedy scientists, third world robber barons and cynical politicians that is the Climate Change movement are at it again - meeting in Paris to try to secure an agreement that won't make any difference to global temperatures but will line the pockets of all those present at the expense of ordinary people.
Let's get one thing straight: despite the noisy hysterics of the greens there is no such thing as a 'climate denier' - anyone who says the climate isn't changing is an imbecile. The climate has been changing for billions of years and will continue to do so for many billions more.
But you also have to be an imbecile to think that driving a Prius and switching to low energy light bulbs will slow down global temperature rises. There is a reason that the climate lobby talks only about vague concepts and never about numbers - they don't add up.
So here are some numbers for you: each one of us in the UK generates about 11 tonnes of carbon a year. Our population is rising rapidly and will hit 80 million by 2050. That's 16 million more people, requiring us to build two new cities the size of London and ceteris paribus pumping 176 million tonnes of additional carbon every year into the atmosphere.
But the government has passed a law requiring us to decrease that footprint by 80% - not per capita, but in total.
Forget your light bulbs and Priuses, even if all forms of transport are made illegal and all farm animals destroyed we wouldn't make that target. And in the meantime our economy would be bombed back into the Stone Age.
On a global scale it's even worse. The world's population will rise from 7 billion to 11 billion and that means more carbon - much more. If man-made climate change is so catastrophic why aren't the alarmists arguing for smaller families,birth control and taxes on parents? Reducing the human population is the only way to solve the problem they say we face.
Because that would alienate religious groups who are among their biggest cheerleaders.
As for the science, it's the job of scientists to tell us what they think is happening but it's not their job to decide what to do about it. That's a job for economists and policy makers.
For one thing the costs of adapting to rising temperatures (eg by building sea defences and establishing new population centres in empty regions) is substantially lower than the cost of trying to 'decarbonise' the global economy.
This Paris meeting is an ugly coalition - of pseudo-scientists milking their new found fame for every dollar, of renewable energy multinationals looking to hoover up subsidies, of illegitimate presidents of poor countries with their noses in the aid trough of various swivel-eyed socialist plotters looking to overthrow capitalism - all banging the drum for more useless windfarms and punitive taxes on the real economy - the one that provides virtually all of us on here with food, shelter and heat.
Hopefully it will end in acrimony,in-fighting and failure like the last one in Copenhagen.
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AfM
10:52 Wed Dec 16
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Bola Choda, you are one well informed, fascinating poster.
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Boka Choda
10:48 Wed Dec 16
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AFM, you are one boring fuck
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AfM
10:47 Wed Dec 16
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Maybe, Johnson.
It doesn't change the science though.
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Johnson
10:45 Wed Dec 16
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I think the statement:
"Because you do? Are you out there splitting the atom? No, you are sat on your fat arse reading other peoples work and only believing what suits your argument.
What a fucking dick you are"
And my subsequent agreement with that is perfectly logical and, if it was put to the wider WHO population would probably gather some support.
Still, you keep telling yourself it's everyone else with the problem.
Pretty much everytime I look at one of these types of threads (you know, non-football, inhabited by those who use WHO to pontificate about their intellect rather than talk about WHUFC) you're on there in some dispute with someone and you play the same old deflection routine every time.
Maybe self-awareness is something you need to work on?
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Boka Choda
10:45 Wed Dec 16
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Now he thinks he's Dr Spock
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AfM
10:39 Wed Dec 16
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I find it's quite helpful when people are so far wrong, Johnson. You cannot logically argue away something which was not logically considered.
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Johnson
10:34 Wed Dec 16
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No, I didn't read any of that, just Scum's assessment of you. That was enough for me.
Do you think saying "If you like" acts as some kind of force field or something? Does it make you feel safe and allows you to dismiss anything you don't like?
You say it a lot on here so it must do something for you.
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AfM
9:51 Wed Dec 16
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If you like, Johnson.
I take it you think those things were "Science Facts" too? Snigger.
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Johnson
9:47 Wed Dec 16
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He's got you bang on AfM.
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AfM
9:45 Wed Dec 16
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cholo 8:05 Wed Dec 16
Exactly.
Council Scum posting that demonstrated such a poor understanding of science that it was hard to do anything but laugh.
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Boka Choda
8:11 Wed Dec 16
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After8 7:48 Wed Dec 16
did you mean to say brain?
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cholo
8:05 Wed Dec 16
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Council Scum 6:43 Tue Dec 15
To be fair a large percentage of that list were just urban myths rather than 'scientific facts that were wrong'.
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After8
7:48 Wed Dec 16
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Afm is an expert in all things with his left leaning brain.
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AfM
7:05 Tue Dec 15
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Ha.
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Council Scum
6:58 Tue Dec 15
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Because you do? Are you out there splitting the atom? No, you are sat on your fat arse reading other peoples work and only believing what suits your argument.
What a fucking dick you are
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AfM
6:49 Tue Dec 15
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With that post, Council Scum, you have again demonstrated my point that you don't understand how science works.
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Council Scum
6:43 Tue Dec 15
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"You don't seem to understand how science works so it's no great surprise that you don't accept climate science. "
You seem to miss my point because you are to busy trying to look clever all the time
Scientist a wrong, a lot. They also are happy to take money to prove something right.
http://list25.com/25-science-facts-that-were-proven-wrong/
You carry on though.
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Ronald_antly
10:28 Tue Dec 15
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I think it's fair to say that this absurd "Climate Summit" thread has ended in failure.
Time to call it quits, gentlemen.
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Darby_
9:33 Tue Dec 15
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Thank God some of the queer fish on this thread will never get into a position of power.
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AfM
9:19 Tue Dec 15
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Lily Hammer 2:43 Tue Dec 15
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In a way man is both a bit part player AND the star of the show.
The sun is by far the biggest driver but this, and the other "natural" factors keep the temperatures within a reasonable level. Man's activities causes changes which are relatively (to the sun) small but dramatically significant because they natural equilibrium cannot cope with these extra gases.
Let me know if that doesn't make sense and I'll try and clarify.
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Hammer and Pickle
8:28 Tue Dec 15
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OK - if the politicians want to make the right decisions as far as the common good is concerned, they have to base them on the science.
But I'm only being bizarre again - ignore my ramblings.
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